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X-Men Origins: Wolverine; also: Deadpool - Walking on the Edge
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X-Men Origins: Wolverine; also: Deadpool
I saw Wolverine with vwlphb today. Just a few random thoughts on it:

I enjoyed it for the most part (I mean, Hugh Jackman: naked = who can complain?; and also Liev Schrieber was a v. good Sabretooth; and there were lots of explosions and fights and Grand Effects; and then of course there's Act I Wade to consider) but it was a bit of a mess altogether. The pacing was weird, the introduction of Gambit was awkward, the ensemble cast was hectic, the plot was jumbled, and then there was the fiasco of Act II Deadpool. HAAAATE.

I think the problem is Wolverine is a Very Old Guy, and they tried to both fit his entire story before X-Men I into this movie, AND introduce all these side characters who, you know, might even get spinoffs, too! I mean, some of them were valid - but Wade, for instance, isn't even in the first Weapon X group in the comics. So...yeah.

Re: Wade/Deadpool (my main concern, of course, *g*) All the scenes with Wade pre-experimentation were spot-on and TOTALLY AWESOME. I mean, seriously. Ryan Reynolds can be my Wade Wilson anyday. BUT. BUT.

Post-experimentation Deadpool was just a complete fiasco of "WHYYYYYY?" I mean, WHY did they have to use Wade for Weapon XI? There's just no reason for it, and on top of that it's ridiculous. His arm-blades are, like, too long for him to logically bend his arms when they're retracted, the Cyclops-eyes are stupid...the whole thing is just...GAH. Yes, the fight scene where he's using all the powers is cool, and I *will* say I liked the Wraith ability they gave him because it's at least CLOSE to canon - he has a teleport belt, so he could actually fight like that in the comics if he was really, really smooth at using it - but all the rest, aside from the canon healing factor, is dumb and OOC. And THE MOUTH. WHAT. HE'S THE MERC WITH A MOUTH. DON'T SEW UP HIS MOUTH. GAAAAAAH. See also: the completely awkward shoehorning in of why he's called Deadpool, which is also, FYI, not canon, along with being 100% less awesome than the actual, canon origin of his name.

OK, I could go on for hours, but I won't. All I'll say is: in my mind, for Deadpool the movie ends after that scene in the field in Nigeria or wherever. There is no "Wade is dead, no he's being experimented on, look, we've got the perfect soldier now, oops, Wolverine cut off his head!" in my version. THANKYOUVERYMUCH.

And now I will say I very much enjoyed Wraith and also Agent Zero in their tiny but pretty cool parts. Gambit was disappointing as a character (too bland) although his fighting style was v. cool. The teen!pair of Emma and Scott made me chuckle (tweak the noses of the Scott/Jean fans, why don't you!) but was odd, and the way Xavier showed up to get Scott et. al was just WEIRD.

Oh, and also? I didn't get the supposed Deadpool ending. I got the Wolverine drinking in a bar ending. Bah.

So, y'know, there are some of my general thoughts. And in conclusion, Kevin Kline I'll say that I really do hope there is a Deadpool movie, and I really hope Ryan Reynolds plays Deadpool, and I really hope that they retcon pretty much this whole movie as it relates to the character. *sigh*

In other Wolverine/Deadpool/movie things, here is a great clip of Ryan Reynolds on Ellen Degeneres yesterday, demonstrating a cool katana trick and donating his Wade Wilson movie dogtags to Ellen's charity eBay auction. Man, I would SO LOVE to have those tags. If they weren't $1,525 and climbing.

P.S. Ten Jobs Not Right for Wolverine

Hee! Thanks to Kelly for the link.

P.P.S. Amen to Ryan Reynolds's comments about a possible Deadpool spinoff. Seriously, I really hope someone makes that kind of Deadpool movie and Reynolds stars. Because: WHOA AWESOMENESS.

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Trixie feels: jealous jealous of future ebay winner

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poinsley From: poinsley Date: May 2nd, 2009 01:38 am (UTC) (current file)
What are the real origins of the name?
foresthouse From: foresthouse Date: May 3rd, 2009 05:05 pm (UTC) (current file)
Included in my next post. *g* Where I try to summarize Deadpool.
pann_cake From: pann_cake Date: May 2nd, 2009 02:45 am (UTC) (current file)
Ok seriously, I agree on every point you just said! Except that I actually really really liked Gambit, I thought he was the best part of the whole movie. The movie as a whole was just...beyond saving, IMO.

The plot was just going nowhere. The inclusion of all these X-Men for the sake of including them was just too much. The dialogue was painful. And to top it off, there were few special effects that really "wowed" me. The beginning with Wade and all them was pretty sweet, and the end fight with the three of them was cool, but that's about it. :/

Anywho, I had a feeling that Act II Deadpool was horribly wrong, but I don't know anything about his character. What is he supposed to be like, powers-wise? I thought I'd come to you for the Cliffs Notes version, lol.

BTW, are the three endings the scenes that happen after the credits start? Cuz if so I got the Stryker Is Still Walking one. :(
foresthouse From: foresthouse Date: May 2nd, 2009 05:11 am (UTC) (current file)
You inspired me. See my next post. :)

No, there's the Stryker scene, and then after the other credits there are 3 scenes. I got Wolverine Drinking. There's apparently a Wade one. I didn't see it. *sob*
pann_cake From: pann_cake Date: May 2nd, 2009 04:56 pm (UTC) (current file)
Aw man, I didn't wait until after the credits! :((
foresthouse From: foresthouse Date: May 2nd, 2009 06:33 pm (UTC) (current file)
Well, the one I saw wasn't that exciting. The Deadpool one is on YouTube, there's a link over at http://www.deadpoolbugle.com. :)
misangeles From: misangeles Date: May 3rd, 2009 03:04 am (UTC) (current file)
The movie was great until the helicopter explosion, but it fell apart and became a disappointment after that. It felt like they tried to put too many characters in the movie, and the writing elicited a few bouts of giggles from the audience -- and not in a good way. With the exception of the awesome Ryan Reynolds katana scene and the Hugh Jackman buttshots, I think they showed all of the good scenes in the various trailers, so we were left with a bunch of filler. This doesn't fill me with confidence for X-Man Origins: Magneto.

I realize that the film was supposed to focus on Wolverine, but I stopped caring about what happened to Wolverine and wanted to know more about Deadpool (the Act I version, of course). Great casting of Ryan Reynolds, and I hope we see more of him as Deadpool. (In the Deadpool end-credit scene, he gropes around in the rubble for his head, and the eyes open. His mouth is no longer sewn shut -- guess Wolverine's claws sliced through that in the "killshot.")

And now for *my* main concern ... Gambit was terrible. He didn't deserve the "LeBeau" moniker. The only time he had the makings of the Cajun accent, he got elbowed in the nose. They had the special effects for his abilities spot-on, but everything else was just BLAH. I think they had to go with this young snotnose because they'd made Rogue so young in the other X-Men films. Guess I'm stuck lusting after the cartoon version. :)
foresthouse From: foresthouse Date: May 3rd, 2009 07:20 pm (UTC) (current file)
Agreed on all of this. :)

I did love Gambit's special effects, but otherwise...yeah.
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